April 9, 2026

8 thoughts on “Inspiration, Intellect, and Rethinking Revelation

  1. Wrote President Joseph Fielding Smith:
    “There is one place, however, where I feel that men are infallible. That is when they, as prophets, reveal to us the word of the Lord. We have four published works which have been accepted by the members of the Church as standard in doctrine, revelation and government. These are: The Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price.” I agree with him and believe this doctrine.
    Media accounts originating with Sister Wendy Nelson have described how President Nelson receives and writes revelation. I personally refuse to be the person that would tell him he is coauthor with the Lord as he writes what is given to him by the Spirit or perhaps even In Person:
    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/sister-wendy-nelson-shares-her-personal-witness-of-president-nelsons-prophetic-calling-and-ministry?lang=eng
    Some examples of descriptions of precise revelation being received:
    Pres. J. R. Clark: “There came into my mind a voice, saying as distinctly as though it spoke in my ear, . . .”

    Elder Goberg: “I leaned back and was thinking deeply when suddenly, as clear as anything, these words came into my mind: ‘You will go to Tonga and there preside over a fiftieth anniversary celebration. You will receive further instructions.’”

    Pres. Hinckley: “There came into my mind the words, ‘Be still and know that I am God.’”

    Elder McConkie: “The voice of the Lord came into my mind as certainly, I am sure, as the voice of the Lord came into the mind of Enos, and the very words were formed, and it said: ‘These are they whom I have chosen as the First Presidency of my Church. Follow them’—those few words.”

    Elder Bushe: “I heard a voice speaking loud and clear, in German,”

    Elder Scott: “He answers prayer so clearly and concisely that we can write his counsel down as though it were dictated to our mind and heart, for I have done that.”

    Pres. Romney: “I have had answers revealed to my mind in finished sentences. I have heard the voice of God in my mind, and I know his words.”
    Also:
    “I know, for example, what Enos was talking about when he said, ‘the voice of the Lord came into my mind again, . . .’ He did not say it came into his ear, but that it ‘came into my mind again, saying. . . .’ I know what that voice is like, because I have had it come into my mind and give me names when I have had to select stake presidents. There is nothing mysterious about it to people who learn to be guided by the Spirit. The voice of the Lord has come into my mind, in sentences, in answer to prayer.”
    Also:
    “I have had that experience; sentences, names, have been given to me. I know this is true and in my soul is an absolute certain witness. I know if it were necessary for us to do it, we could go into our secret chambers or on the mountaintop and hear the voice of God as plainly as the Prophet Joseph did.”
    Also:
    “I was once concluding a talk I had given at the funeral of a fine Latter-day Saint mother and was almost ready to say amen and sit down. There came into my mind the words, ‘Turn around and bear your testimony.’”

    Elder Cook summarized: “How the Spirit influences our minds, including speaking peace to our minds, occupying our minds, enlightening our minds, and even sending a voice to our minds.”

    I have myself had pure intelligence flow into my mind with such clarity that I was able to cloth that personal revelation with words without even trying to think about it. I don’t see that as being a coauthor with God. And there was no error in it.
    D&C 11:11 “For, behold, it is I that speak; . . . and by my power I give these words unto thee.”

  2. What do you mean when you say “There is no such thing as a purely divine communication?” What about the visit of the Father and Son to Joseph Smith, Moroni’s visit to him, Peter James and John visiting him, the Savior appearing to him in the Temple, etc. In my understanding, these were instances of purely divine communication as I understand that statement to mean. What is your meaning when you say it? Am I missing something?

  3. Hi Luana,
    What I mean (as I explain in more detail in my book), is that _all_ communication to humans, divine or otherwise, must be processed through the human’s mind who receives the communication. Nobody was there with Joseph during the First Vision. He had to explain (and even to some degree _understand_) what happened according to human cognition. The divine is greater than human understanding but God accomodates the divine to human understanding. The human must then convey those experiences (as well as impressions and revelations) according to his (or her) human cogntive abilites and imperfect human language.

  4. Hi Dennis Horne,
    I’m certainly not claiming that prophets don’t receive God-given revelation, because I believe they (and we do).

    Your post included the quote: “There is one place, however, where I feel that men are infallible. That is when they, as prophets, reveal to us the word of the Lord. We have four published works which have been accepted by the members of the Church as standard in doctrine, revelation and government. These are: The Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price.” I agree with him and believe this doctrine.
    Me: While I agree that the scriptures are the Word of God, it is not “doctrine” that they are in infallible Word of God. When Pres. Smith (who was president of the Q of 12 at the time) said that he believed that the men are “infallible” when giving scripture, he also notes (almost ironically) that he, himself, is “a fallible man” (included in the same letter from which you quote). Which means that he can be mistaken– including the fact that he might be mistaken to call the scriptures “infallible.”

    As I wrote in Shaken Faith Syndrome:
    ““I make no claim of infallibility,” said President Spencer
    W. Kimball.2 “We make no claim of infallibility or perfection in the prophets, seers, and revelators,” said Elder James E. Faust.3 Elder George Q. Cannon taught, “the First Presidency cannot claim, individually or collectively, infallibility.”4 “We respect and venerate” the prophet, said Elder Charles W. Penrose, but “we do not believe that his personal views or utterances are revelations from God.”5 President Harold B. Lee indicated that not every word spoken or written by a General Authority need be considered as inspired6 and Elder J. Reuben Clark said that “‘even the President of the Church has not always spoken under the direction of the Holy Ghost.’” (see pg. 29)

    It’s an indisputable fact that scriptures contain errors (which is why wrote, “And now if there are faults, they are the mistakes of men: wherefore condemn not the things of God….” (Book of Mormon Title Page).

    God doesn’t make mistakes, but humans do, and God must work through fallible and imperfect humans (all in imperfect and ambiguous human language with expressions that are culturally dependent and often weak in explaining much grander things). Please remember that this blog posts scratches the surface of arguments I illucidate over many hundreds of pages in my book.

    You: “I personally refuse to be the person that would tell him [Pres. Nelson] he is coauthor with the Lord as he writes what is given to him by the Spirit or perhaps even In Person.”

    But the very fact that Nelson convey’s the Word of God in 21st century English that is dependant on the words, grammar, idioms, etc. that are part of Pres. Nelson’s worldview, is precisely what makes him a “co-author” (again, explained in much greater detail in my book). We are likewise all co-authors to the personal revelations God gives us. He speaks to us (accommodates us) according to _our_ language, cultural idioms, etc.

  5. Hi Mike,
    With the President Joseph Fielding Smith quote and with the term “coauthor” I think the subject is being changed from prophets acting as normal regular fallible men (which they are)–to when they are acting as prophets under the gift and power of the Holy Ghost, when they are not fallible (as Pres. Smith believed and I agree with).

    The quotes you share are accurate in context for when these men are not acting as prophets receiving revelation, but not when they are.

    So the question remains; is a prophet a fallible “coauthor” when writing revelations by the power of the Holy Ghost?
    “These commandments are of me, and were given unto my servants in their weakness, after the manner of their language” (D&C 1:24) said the Lord–and Joseph had only his grasp of English language to use as directed/inspired; same with his successors.

    But when the Prophet (Joseph or a successor) is hearing words dictated to him as Enos did, then “coauthor” becomes to me far too strong and inapplicable of a word. Conduit or instrument or revelator seem much more precise as descriptors.
    Was Enos a “coauthor” or did he write exactly what was said to him?
    When the very words are formed in the mind or seen in a sacred interpreting instrument, human mind that it is, does that make the person receiving the precise words from the Spirit a coauthor? They could never have come up with them on their own–just ask poor William McClellan.

    Mormon abridged a pile of sets of plates into one set, as did Moroni. Was the fallibility/supposed mistakes in the abridgment work or was it in the translation process done by the gift and power of God (Mosiah’s or Moroni’s or Joseph’s)? (Not worrying about perfect grammar or punctuation which was not an issue for Joseph or the Lord.)
    “And he has translated the book, even that part which I have commanded him, and as your Lord and your God liveth it is true.” (D&C 17:6)
    “gave him power from on high, by the means which were before prepared [Nephite interpreters], to translate the Book of Mormon;”…
    “the revelations of God which shall come hereafter by the gift and power of the Holy Ghost, the voice of God,” (D&C 20)

    Doesn’t sound like a lot of room for being a “coauthor” or making many errors.
    Can God overcome/improve/perfect a mortal prophet’s fallible mind using His power? Are God’s revelations in the D&C far greater than anything Joseph could have come up with on his own?

    I am not qualified to determine what a “perfect” revelation is but no one else is either.
    That is, unless they are, “being in the Spirit” or “By the power of the Spirit our eyes were opened and our understandings were enlightened,” or “the eyes of my understanding were opened, and the Spirit of the Lord rested upon me,” or “there came a voice unto me, saying:” or “I give unto you these words” or “my power which speaketh unto thee; For, behold, it is I that speak; … and by my power I give these words unto thee.” Etc.

    It is during these times that I would never tell a prophet he was acting as a fallible coauthor; the words are not his nor from his mind or heart, though they are expressed in either his language or the Lord’s, depending on the type of revelation.
    Calling this infallible process two sides of the same coin with scientific discovery (by the light of Christ), emphasizing an alleged human element or contaminant, and coauthor, just doesn’t work for me at least.

    And on a side note (not speaking to Mike), I have a pet peeve when people (like Givens) call the revelations in the D&C and PofGP “Joseph’s revelations”. They are in truth the Lord’s revelations, given to or thru Joseph. Further, Joseph actually did “translate” the Book of Mormon (as that word is understood by regular church members today), he didn’t simply dictate by revelation to Oliver a text some alleged previous unknown heavenly being already translated. I hope that mistaken theory gains no traction in the church. Let’s not limit what the God of the Universe did using one of the dozen greatest seers to ever walk planet earth.

  6. Dennis, your quote of D&C 1:24 answers your question:

    “These commandments are of me, and were given unto my servants in their weakness, after the manner of their language” (D&C 1:24)
    All human language is weak and ambiguous. God gives all of us (including prophets) revelation in the “weakness” and “manner” of _our_ language. Our language also includes more than words—it includes cultural ideas (ways in which we _express_ ourselves).

    It is an inescapable fact that scriptures contain “mistakes” (often, errors of science). They typically include some of the erroneous scientific thinking of the day in which the scriptures were revealed (the “manner” of the prophet’s language). _That_ is the co-author influence of the prophet on the Word of God. As I mentioned in my last post, I lay out the arguments and evidence in greater detail over many hundreds of pages in my book, so you are only getting brief summaries of my arguments here.

    You: Was Enos a “coauthor” or did he write exactly what was said to him?

    Me: Your view would suggest that a prophet hears (directly from God) every single word he writes/dictates came. “…exactly what was said to him” (your words). What then do you do when Joseph changes what he was told (“said to him”) by God? And Joseph most certainly did make changes. Why would he change God’s words? This is precisely one of the contra-LDS arguments made by those who also think that God speaks precise words to a prophet. The problem with such an approach, however, is it doesn’t sustain scrutiny and is not supported by evidence or logic once we dig a bit deeper. There is no reason logically, or doctrinally, to accept the infallible view of scripture.

  7. Mike,
    You changed the subject again, from Enos, who heard the exact words spoken to him and wrote them, to Joseph, who received many different kinds of revelations.
    He received some like Enos’ (D&C 130:14-15), and others that were descriptions of visions, etc. or angelic visitations.
    Different kinds of revelations might necessitate various levels of thought and description from the prophet involved but that does not get close to amounting to coauthorship. When a voice is heard and written down, as in these cases, I will trust there was no coauthoring going on, but that we get the original word of God for the original written revelation. Minor revisions do not equate to coauthoring or the other human interferences you describe.

    From your comments, I think you give far too much room for prophets to (supposedly) muddy the pure water. Even when Joseph changed some of the revelations he received, they were correct both before and after the change; they were just slightly doctrinally improved.
    I don’t believe the Lord lets His prophets become coauthors to the extent of diminishing what He tells them because of mortal imperfections.
    “And we know that these things are true and according to the revelations of John, neither adding to, nor diminishing from the prophecy of his book, the holy scriptures, or the revelations of God which shall come hereafter by the gift and power of the Holy Ghost, the voice of God, or the ministering of angels.” (D&C 20:35)
    So we seem to disagree on this general subject. I have studied the teachings of the prophets and apostles about how revelation works too much to go anywhere near what you are promoting.

  8. Dennis, it’s ok that we disagree. I lay out my arguments in detail in my latest book. You really can’t address more than a summary of my position until you’ve dealt with all my evidence and logic. You might still not be persuaded, but until then, you arguments in this post don’t address the full extent of why I argue for “co-authorship.”

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